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But a witness said a woman who was neither a trained investigator nor a sworn officer actually chatted with Kibler and then coached Hillman on what to say in the affidavit.

Information about the affidavit came to light as the U. Department of Justice investigates Hillman, the FBI special agent who used to be in charge of the local "To Catch a Predator"-style task force.

On Wednesday, Scroggins told the Times Free Press he believes he told the truth when he applied for the warrant.

The information is more pertinent in the federal investigation into Hillman.

"While it will certainly be an issue for him if he did not appropriately disclose info or has done other things that have been alleged, that will be an issue for Hillman," Scroggins said.

"I don't see it as an issue for the case." Attorneys who represent other defendants caught by the task force say Kibler should not have been prosecuted.

On principle, they argue, a sworn affidavit can't contain lies.

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The detective said Hillman claimed he chatted with Kibler -- not Angela Russell. "I don't give a [expletive] who did the communication with Kibler," he said.

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